Kidner Procedure (Accessory Navicular Surgery)

Hi again! I’m Dawn’s friend Alexa and I’m guest-posting while Dawn’s away! As Dawn and I have both mentioned before, I had foot surgery last March (called a kidner procedure to remove my accessory navicular). I thought I’d take a little time to talk about it!

When I was in high school, I broke a bone in my foot. Every doctor kept thinking I meant my ankle, but when they finally took an x-ray of my foot, they saw the broken bone and put me in a boot. I missed most of my senior year of field hockey, but otherwise seemed to recover fine. In college I was able to play field hockey and go running, generally without any problems. My foot would bother me a little sometimes, but it always went away. When  I graduated from college, I decided to start running to keep active. I started off slow, training for a 10k. Then I started training for a half marathon. That training was great for the first few weeks. But slowly, as my mileage began building up, even a shorter run of less than 3 miles would irritate my foot. It seemed that the constant running was becoming a problem.

So I went to an orthopedist who did a very thorough examination and informed me that I had an accessory navicular. Look at the picture below, but it’s basically an extra bone in the arch of your foot. I thought that bone was just large on me, but I never realized it was extra and I wasn’t supposed to have it! Apparently, only about 2% of the population has the accessory navicular bone (2.5% according to wikipedia).

Accessory-Navicular-Normal-and-Abnormal_thumb

The problem with having this bone (and flat feet, which I think it’s common for people with accessory naviculars to be flat footed) is that it creates stress on the tendon that reaches around under the accessory navicular. My orthopedist explained that over time, lots of exercise can cause 1) rubbing on the tendon and 2) a slight movement of the accessory navicular. Both of which are fine for a short distance or not training regularly, but it creates irritation over time. The only way to fix it is either to lower my exercise (which wouldn’t be a good because it’s healthy for me and I’d love to run a marathon one day!) or to have a kidner procedure to remove the accessory navicular.

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The way to deal with it is to cut the tendon, remove the accessory navicular, and reattach the tendon. Thus, most of the recovery is because the tendon needs to attach itself to the navicular and regain strength (see the image below).

foot_accessory_navicular_treatment01As you would expect, the recovery is supposed to be faster for teens than for even me in my 20s, which should still be faster than if I were 40. Either way, for my specific recovery (cannot be applied to other people), I spent the first two weeks with a temporary cast, basically lying down, hopped up on pain meds, and watching tons of Friends episodes! Two weeks after the surgery, I got the stitches out and they looked over the incision site to make sure all was well. Up until that point, I was on crutches and not allowed to put any weight on my foot. I basically bummed around, keeping my foot elevated and spilling food on myself from trying to eat while lying down! Two weeks after that, I was allowed to slowly put weight on my foot. To do that, they told me to stand on a scale and slowly add weight until it equaled 10% of my weight. And each day I added another 10% to the total. I kept using the crutches for the most part, but I slowly switched to a cane to really feel like an old lady!

About six weeks after the surgery, I was able to put full weight on my foot and start physical therapy. That started with twice a week and then dropped to once a week. Less than seven months after the surgery, I was pretty much running and exercising normally.

Like I said before, that was my experience with my kidner procedure (the removal of the accessory navicular). Everyone is different and has different experiences/specific medical conditions. But when I was told I would need a kidner procedure,  I was having a really hard time finding information on the web. I thought this might be helpful for others…all 2% of us :) Just to make sure Dawn and I don’t get in trouble, this is not official medical advice!! Just my personal experience :)

I’m going to do another post soon about my recovery from surgery. While my specific surgery was pretty unique, my recovery was not. I hope that will help some people who may also be recovering from surgery! Stay tuned!

Have you had surgery due to exercise? Did you try to learn from other people’s experiences before your surgery? What resources were helpful to you?

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104 thoughts on “Kidner Procedure (Accessory Navicular Surgery)

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  2. Hi there! I had the kidner procedure performed on June 6, 2014 and thought I’d share my experience thus far. I was in a soft cast (aka splint) for 2 weeks after surgery. Like you, I spent most of that time with my foot elevated, taking pain meds and binge-watching Netflix and Hulu Plus (when I wasn’t sleeping). After that, I was given a hard cast – I will be in that for a total of 4 weeks. After this, I was told that I will have a CAM boot for 4 more weeks. I would highly recommend a knee scooter – I’m clumsy on crutches! It’s a lengthy recovery (especially considering that I have an almost-three-year-old son running about), but I pray it’s worth it!

    1. Ginna

      Can you give me any more feedback re: healing time, etc. I am 66-years old and it appears that I am going to have to have the procedure. I am not looking forward to a 6 – 7 month recovery, but from what I have seen, that appears to be the length of time it will take.

      It’s my right foot and would like to understand when I would be able to drive again. I own a small business and being away will be costly. Any information you can give me about your how long it took to recover your mobility would be great.

  3. SUe

    Hi there my name is Sue and I had the same surgery on both of my feet 2 years ago in November. I recovered from the first surgery in about 3-4 months, then in March I had the procedure on the other foot. My right foot (first surgery) had to have the tendon reattached extra bones taken out on the outside of my foot. The second surgery on the left foot it was a removal of the bone and then removing bones on the outside of foot. It was a very intense recovery for me. I was around 47 when I had the surgeries. I had a hard time fitting into any tyoe of shoes for a long time. Then, at a year my feet seemed like they were getting close to normal (hwatever normal is in my case) It has ben a few years now and I am having some issues with my achilles and other issues with some arthritis I believe. I will be going to the doctor for a review of what might be going on now.

    I went almost 5 -7 years before anyone knew what my condition was. Then it was just a guess and they would try a procedure and see what the outcome is. Right now I am trying to find out after surgery after a few years if there are other complications from the surgeries. That is what i am dealing with now.

    Good luck on your recovery!

    1. Christina

      Hi I had kidner procedure done 2 years ago, and all was wonderful until recently. I have the same old pain back. Not sure if this is normal. Or what I should do about it x

    2. Bee

      I’m in the same position :( They had to do a lot with the tendon in the kidner procedure. Did you by any chance have pain in your posterior tibial tendon after the surgery? I’m 4 months out from the surgery and have really bad tendon pain and hoping to find out if I should be worried. Please tell me it gets better :( It’s so hard. I can’t have the other one fixed until this one’s healed and this one is taking SO long to heal for a simple modified kidner..

  4. Niki

    Thanks for posting this! I am having a lot of pain from what I now know is accessory navicular. I tried orthotics, but they do not seem to be working. I have ran several marathons and want to run more, so I am now considering the surgery. Hearing that you have been able to return to running is very encouraging. Are you back to you former levels of running yet? Were you able to do any exercise (like upper body) during the three months right after the procedure?

  5. Anna

    Hi! I’m a teenage girl and my accessory navicular bone has stopped me from joining many high school sports. My doctor has said we may want to think about the kidner procedure, but I’m really scared. I can’t miss a lot of school, and I don’t want something to go wrong and I can’t play sports again. I guess I don’t really have a question, I just wanted to say this to someone. Anyway, if you have an advise about treatment please let me know.

    1. Dawn H.

      Hi Anna,
      So sorry you’re having a tough time. Surgery is definitely not to be taken likely, and it doesn’t hurt to get a second (and third) opinion. That said, my friend Alexa has benefited a lot from the surgery earlier this year and is able to run comfortably without pain now. If you do decide to get the surgery, be sure to ask your surgeon lots of questions (how many of these surgeries has he/ she performed, success rate, complications, healing time, etc) to get all the information you can and help you feel more comfortable. Best of luck to you, and I’d love an update later on!
      Dawn

  6. Daniel

    Hey Alexa and Everyone.
    My name is Daniel, I’m 25, from Israel, right now traveling in North of India.
    I’m so happy to read all these reviews and to know I’m not alone on this. In the last year, the Accessory Navicular Syndrome has completely ruled my life and kept me from doing any physical things, and in the last 4 months, even plain walking is painful for me.
    14 months ago ,when the pain started, several doctors told me that surgery is an option but first of all I should try everything else. And so I did- I started wearing custom made insoles, and did some physiotherapy. Eventually the pain kind of went away, and I could walk the street without that pain as before, but still couldn’t do anything like sports, and lifting heavy things.
    Few months went by , and I found myself starting to have pain again even if I dont do physical stuff. Just standing and washing dishes was too much. And that has been my last 4 months until today, chronic pain.

    I really dont want to do the surgery, but If I will have to, I guess my question for you is-
    During your research before the surgery, have you find any patience reviews that are several years after the surgery? If you had, I would love to read them. Plus, have you heard of people in their mid-20’s that have done it? And of course, I would love to hear how are you these days, a year and half after.

    Thank you
    Daniel

  7. Kristy

    An ankle sprain led to the revelation that the ‘bumpy bone’ on my foot was an accessory navicular. After a summer of not being able to hike, hold my kids up in the ocean, or walk on uneven surfaces without saying ‘ouch’, I will have this bone removed. I’d rather do this now (at 44) than be in on-and-off pain and not be able to run. The recovery seems to be a bit of a pain, but I think the long-term results will be worth it.

    1. Kristy

      I’m now at 5 weeks post op. At 4 weeks, I began taking the splint off in the evening to give my leg and foot some air. Next week I graduate to a walking boot and at 8 weeks I’ll begin physical therapy. The 6 weeks of NWB is a real challenge. I use a rolling walker and use the seat for my knee – cheaper than a knee scooter and the built-in seat is helpful for resting when doing errands or at work.

      The surgery went well and my foot only hurt for about 4 days after (or at least the pain has been less than before the surgery, so I don’t notice it). Patience is the key. Muscle atrophy is horrible, but hopefully with the boot next week I can gradually regain calf strength. Not even sure what the deal is with my toes, but they feel stiff and swollen (but don’t look like they are). Overall I’m happy to have had this done and look forward to next summer when I can use my feet normally!

  8. lana

    Hi… I am so glad I have found this site for my daughter.. She has been a Soccer player forever, she is now 20.. Playing Soccer and got kicked many times on her Navicular..Ortho took an MRI and said it needed to come out. Was told he had never seen one so large. Getting a second opinion tomorrow. Can anyone tell me about the procedure and healing time? Greatly appreciated…..

  9. Shirley C

    I am so glad to have found this blog where there are “others” who have gone through what I just had done 3 days ago. I just had the kidner procedure and tenosynovectomy. The surgery took 45 minutes in length and I was put under “twilight” -sleep. I woke up about 1.5 hr. later and with a big walking bootie on my left foot.

    About 8 years ago, I had resumed figure skating after not skating for a long period of time. I had picked up where I left off when I was a yougn teen and loved that I was fit enough to go right back and do some challenging moves. I was doing repetitive spinning classes with added practice time and noticed that my left foot was hurting. Due to the love of the sport, I ignored it and kept on skating. At a certain point in time, it would even hurt when I was sleeping. This is when I took real notice and sought out medical care. Just like some of the people have posted, I was dianosed with “accessory navicular” by my podiatrist. I tried every non-invasive method: custom orthodotics, hard cast/immobility and stopped skating altogether! Nothing lasted. The pain came right back. I endured it for 8 years and finally I could not stand any longer because my physical ability was diminishing. This, or course, lead to weight gain. I did some research and found a different podiatrist and he gave me new hope in trying laser heat treatment. Tried that over few months and that didn’t work either. So, now, at age 44 I have finally submitted myself in going under the knife!

    Walking with the crutches has never been my favorite but now I’m fiding them to be my “buddy”. Without them I couldn’t get anywhere! So on this day 3 after surgery, I’m finding relief writing this in hopes to help someone else out there. We, the 2 % of the population, must unite and help one another!

  10. Eric

    Great article!
    I’ve been dealing with pain, discomfort, and general agony for most daily activities since February when I rolled my ankle. I thought initially that it was a sprain, but alas it was not and it’s a type 2 accessory navicular causing inflammation in the posterior tibial tendon.
    In the past 5 years I’ve lost a lot of weight, gained muscle, and my doctor has been very happy due to that exercise lowering my blood pressure to perfect levels. However, with the accessory navicular, my weight has been creeping back up sure to intense pain even a few exercisers into my workouts.
    I’m hoping the surgery goes well (likely scheduled for spring 2015)…but what I’m wondering is the following:
    1. Is there any chance I’ll be weight bearing within 2 months of the surgery – able to be in my feet for 9-10 hours straight?
    2. What workout can I do with a cast on? Upper body, core, and that’s about it, right? No cardio? At age 35, I’m concerned that my blood pressure will go back up even with super healthy eating, and my kidney doctor will prescribe me back on meds which I really don’t want to do. (incurable kidney disease sensitive to blood pressure levels).
    Those who have had the surgery – what’s your opinion on things I can do post-surgery, and when?
    This whole thing has me quite depressed – I can’t take my two young kids skating, I can’t go on walks for more than 5-10 minutes (even with custom orthotics), and I can’t keep weight in check to prolong my life due to the kidney disease.
    Much appreciated.
    Eric

  11. Mark

    I just had surgery on Nov. 10th 2014, I had been in pain since Dec. 2013. I had the navicular accessory bone removed and a ocd repaired at the same time. I am told that everything went well and I should be good to go in 3 months. I tried everything to avoid surgery.Physical therapy.icing.medication.chiropractic treatment.I would suggest that anyone who is in considerable pain just go ahead and have the surgery done., just find a highly qualified doctor to do the surgery.The recovery has been slow but it has not even been two weeks. yet.I am confident that.it will heal and be okay . I start physical therapy next week which I am told will speed recovery. Also anyone who is having this surgery get yourself a knee walker BEFORE your surgery. You will not regret it. Good luck.

    1. Eric

      Do you know if the surgeon did a modified Kidner procedure (where the posterior tibial tendon is attached to the area where the accessory navicular ‘was’? If that was performed – what is your anticipated recovery time (and stages/casts/therapy) as told by your surgeon?
      What kind of PT are you doing if you’re still in a cast…?
      Many thanks.
      Eric

    2. mark

      Shirley,
      Its been slow to be honest. Still have swelling and pain. My surgery also included a ocd tear in my ankle that also was repaired. So I had two procedures.Have a knee walker that helps a lot doing everything around the house and getting around. Have started PT for range of motion. Still NWB. I hope you are doing well , its been a long slow process, I’m hopefully that the surgery will correct the problem and I can walk w/o pain ,and even run again some day. I wish you the best in your recovery. I’m old (55) so hopefully your younger and will heal faster.
      Mark

    3. Shirley C

      Mark,

      I hope by now you’re recovering well or you have fully recovered. I, on the other hand, have had the worst time with recovery. My foot got infected and it caused some great concerns. Going on 13 weeks post surgery, I am no longer using knee walker nor crutches!

      Are you having any pain at all and/or swelling? My doctor just put me on a week-long medication to help with the swelling in my ankle. Besides that, I’m experiencing sharp pain whenever I stand or walk for more than 1/2 hour. Is this normal? Did you find that PT has been helping you? My dr. sent me to PT too early which set off a whole mess of problem. Now, he’s holding back and is considering not even sending me back!

      From all the research I’ve done in regards to kidner procedure, it’s obvious that the younger you are the better chance of full recovery. I need to hear some good news from people above 40 yrs. of age that they’ve experienced a successful procedure and an outcome.

    4. Mkose4468

      Shirley,

      Im sorry to hear your recovery has been so hard. You asked a number of questions and I will try to answer them point by point. Yes I still have some swelling and increased pain when I am on my foot. Went back to work at my job at a school and my pain level went from a 3-4 to a 7-8 immediately. Seen the Doctor last monday and was told I need to elevate the foot as much as possible as I begin to be on my feet more. Was also told that posterior tibial tendonitist was not uncommon during recovery too. Was told this was a 3-6 month recovery and patients have told the doctor they could still feel pain/discomfort 9 months to 1 year out. Doctor recommended that I wear a compression sock and my AFO custom brace for the next month or two. The AFO brace   would need to be custom made for you, but might be what is needed to take the strain / pressure off your tendon during recovery. You can research the AFO brace also known as a Richie brace or Arizona brace. I started wearing mine daily since last monday and have a slight improvement. I am still in PT and it is still ROM and strength and balance. Recovery has been tough so I know how you feel. I wad told to have patience which is hard when your in pain.

  12. Katie

    Thank you for this post! I talked to my doctor today and he didn’t want to persuade my decision to go the surgery route or not but this probably would be the best decision for me too. I love working out and crossfitting and don’t want to stop what I love because of my foot. But knowing you were able to pick back up after a couple months is encouraging. Like you said, their isn’t much information out there!

    1. mark

      I was told by the doctor that he did not perform the kidner procedure. Doctor said there was no need to anchor the posterior tendon back into place as the tendon looked okay. The recovery is still 6-8 weeks, I am told. The first two weeks were in a fiberglass type cast/splint, after two weeks I went into a boot. I am still non weight bearing however. The physical therapy consists of passive range of motion exercises performed by the P.T. I am in week 4 now and quiet frankly I still have pain and some swelling at and around the incision site, sometimes severe. Foot is a shade different color than my other foot (redder), and there is still some bruising in and around the area.

  13. I had the modified kidner procedure on sept. 17th. Spent 2 weeks in splint, 2.5 weeks I’m cast, and then another 2 non weight bearing in boot. I have spent the last three or so weeks transitioning out of boot. I stayed active during my non weight bearing period (sitting elliptical with one foot, arm cycling, and some workouts I found on You Tube). Doing PT and all was going well until I came out of boot 24/7 this week. Having lot of similar pain to before surgery (namely pain when pushing off of big toe). Anyone else who has gobies through the recovery experience this?

    1. Bee

      Is yours getting better? I had the surgery on August 1st and still have ptt pain when pushing off. I hope it goes away soon :( You should stay in touch with me if you wouldn’t mind? We could compare notes and see if all this is normal. My doc says I’m overworking the tendon but I googled posterior tib tendonitis and…now I’m worried lol.

  14. Daniel

    Hello everyone again.

    All of the reviews I find here on this blog about recovering from the surgery, is between few weeks after, and a year or two after.

    I was wondering if someone heard or read somewhere a review of a person recovering from the surgery 5- 10 years after? that would be a good indication, for me at least, whether going for operation or not.

    Thank you and be well
    Daniel

  15. Wendy

    Hi Mark just wondering how your recovery is going I had the operation on the 13th Nov . I am still NWB I see my surgon in 4 days and start PT in 7 days I am nearly 7 weeks post op. My foot is healing well but I do get pain and it is still a bit numb around the site …. How is your redness ? Mine is still very red when I put (hang) it down … I am still in a boot but sometime don’t use it around the house …. I am so looking forward to walking again …

    1. mark

      Hey Wendy,

      Seen my doctor today Dr. Lin, foot and ankle orthopedic surgeon for the Chicago Bulls and Chicago White Sox ( kudos). Told him I am still pretty sore 7 weeks post op, also now have a little plantar fascitis going since going weight bearing 1 week ago with walking boot. Doctor says everything looks good and expected I would still be sore at this point. He now recommends that I continue another 2-3 weeks with walking boot OR if I really feel good go with my AFO brace and a compression sock to keep the swelling down and pain under control. ( That’s a new one ). Dr. says that as long as I don’t have increased pain and swelling that we are okay. Physical therapist continues ROM exercises and has me doing band work
      (red band, 2nd lowest). Still have redness, very slowly fading to flesh colored. I wish you the best recovering from this terrible injury, Yes, terrible f…ing injury. No one knows how bad this injury/curse is until they have it. Stay positive , work diligently on your rehab and I hope the best for you in your recovery.

  16. Katie

    Thanks for sharing your story. I had the kidner and a hyprocure stent to stop the overpronation that causes the accessory navicular in flat feet put in 5 months ago. I also had my calf muscle cut and released to help prevent the hyprocure from creating discomfort. By week 7 I was out of the walking boot. By week 1 I was riding the recumbent bike with the hard sole accessory to the hard cast. I would just put my foot on the pedal and pedal mostly with my other foot. I also did leg extensions on the surgery side and other leg exercises to keep the non surgery leg strong, which I read can help reduce the atrophy in the surgery leg. I did spin class at about 4 weeks after surgery when I got my boot. I didn’t have any PT. I am wondering now if I should. I ran a mile at a 9 minute pace a few days at week 10 without much pain. The 4th time the outside of my foot hurt so bad I had to stop. My doc said not to expect to run normally for at least 6-9 mos. I have a really great recovery until I ran too early. Now I have pain that isn’t in a consistent place. Sometimes I feel like the hyprocure is making me supinate, hurting the outside of my foot and others the inside of my foot hurts. I still have swelling, mostly near the navicular. My doctor said everything looks good and just to give it time for my foot to readjust to its new position. I still do spin class without any pain. The leg workouts along the way have helped a lot. My surgery calf is just under an inch smaller than my non surgery calf.

    1. Liza Chapkovsky

      Hi Katie — I am curious how you are doing now? Is the combo (hyprocure and kidner) worth it? is your balance better now? Please let me know.

  17. Hollie

    My son (14) had the modified Kinder Procedure May 1, 2014 and has been having severe pain even while walking for the past few months. Dr. said everything went great in surgery and that he shouldn’t being having pain. He is a competitive swimmer and swimming has increased the pain. Dr recently put him in a boot for 5 weeks. We had another MRI and more x-rays, both of which show no broken bones so Dr. can’t figure out cause of pain. We are having a 2nd opinion in a few day. Was wondering if anyone else had problems like this months after surgery?? Frustrated with not knowing what to do and how to help with the pain.

    1. Bee

      I’m having the same problem. Modified kidner 6 months ago, excellent surgeon, and I’m trying a round of conservative treatment before they open it back up possibly to look. Is it the posterior tibial tendon bothering him too? Mir showed no tears? Cuz it’s too soon for mr is to show much after a modified kidner. Could be a ptt tear? You should let me know how everything goes…I am miserable

    2. Marsha

      My daughter (15) had her accessory navicular removed and the tendon reattached on May 21, 2014. She got better after the surgery. She went back to playing her sports, softball and soccer heavily and started having a lot of pain again at the tendon attachment spot. We’ve had x-rays and an MRI and both show everything healed and nothing wrong. The dr. is puzzled and says this type of surgery always goes smoothly, We just saw him again yesterday and he says the only thing he can think is that the attachment of the tendon to the bone is not good enough for the high activity level she does. I completely understand your frustration level because I am with you on not knowing how to help with the pain and what to do at this point. He says basically that his best advice at this point is to wait until she can’t handle it any more and he will go back in and try to get a better attachment. Whose to say he will get it though. I’m at your point though of wondering whether to get a second opinion. This was supposed to be such a simple procedure. I’ve been researching on line and this is first site I found of anyone having any problems! Anxious to hear if you find out anything different.

    3. Bee

      So for everyone still struggling, I was told that sometimes the tendon doesn’t heal properly to the bone despite good surgeons and they can either revise the surgery or if needed take the tendon behind it and replace it. Best of luck!

    4. Noel

      I’m having similar stuff with tendonitis after kidner last august. We put it back in a cast for eight weeks then started partial weight bearing with crutches, very gradually building up to more weight bearing. So far, it’s about 50% better and I’m putting down up to 50% weight with minimal pain but can’t full wt bear cuz it got so week in a cast. Get an ultrasound today to make sure it’s not torn and get clearance to continue conservative treatment. Long recovery! But I absolutely believe it will be worth it. The other foot is up next and I plan on doing it all again once right foot is recovered because it hurts soooo bad on the left.

  18. Bill

    My daughter (13) injured her foot/ankle in September 2014. She typically takes about 10 hours of dance classes per week, but since September she has not been able to do anything. She has been wearing a boot since the injury and had about 15 sessions of PT. We have seen an orthopedic physician, a podiatrist, a chiropractor (for her back pain which is most likely a result of her boot), and scheduled to see another orthopedic practice on Feb 12th. The podiatrist really believes the best thing to do is to remove the accessory navicular bone and reattach the tendon. But after reading a lot of your posts, I am concerned.

  19. Eric

    My surgeon (booked for 36 days from now!), said they usually do one of two things, depending on the patient and the amount of wear on the PTT:
    Either just remove the bone and re-attach the tendon (basic procedure, least invasive).
    OR
    Remove the bone, use a section of tendon from one of your middle toes (located under-foot), and supplement the PTT with that. Basically they take half of the toe tendon (lengthwise / cross-section) which weakens that tendon, but that piece is then used to ‘beef up’ the PTT and help it be less prone to damage and wear later in life.

    He usually tries the least invasive procedure and said he does it on 80% or more of his accessory navicular cases, and has never had a bad result.

    Here’s hoping your surgeon did a good job and it heals, albeit slowly, instead of requiring more surgery!

  20. Bill

    Just a follow up to our visit with the orthopedic doctor on Feb 12th. Same diagnosis, but he is recommending a different treatment. He wanted to cast my daughter for 4 to 6 weeks to keep the tendon and place and let it heal, recasting every two weeks to slowly adjust her ankle and tendon. If we can avoid the surgery, then that would be great, so we are giving this a try. The doctor didn’t promise anything, but he’s hoping this will help.

  21. Eric

    3 more sleeps until my surgery. I’m getting a bit nervous and feel real bad for my wife who will be pulling double-duty around the house for a while.
    What I’m wondering is – is there anything I’ve forgot? I’ve got crutches, extra pillows for elevation, bedside table, breakfast-in-bed table (for laptop, books, remotes, etc), Netflix, and we’ve almost finished tidying up the main pathways through the home so I can get around on crutches.
    Also bought a few pairs of tear-away track pants (with the buttons on the side to allow room for the cast).
    Anything else?

    1. Katie

      Eric, you’ll want to think about how you’ll bathe/shower with the cast. I bought a cover at Walgreens (but it’s a pain in the butt) and just ended up sitting on a small stool on a rubber mat in a regular sized bathtub/shower and sticking my foot out over the ledge so it wouldn’t get wet and using a handheld shower head to bathe. May want benedryl if you aren’t sure if you’re allergic to the pain meds (I got a rash after using them for 3 days straight).

  22. Eric

    Good point Katie. I have a plastic chair that works well in the soaker tub we have. And a handheld shower. I may look into the shower-bag for casts but may I ask what the ‘pain in the butt’ was with using it? Did it not really work, or just was hard to put in place?

    1. Katie

      It’s just had to get on and off because it fits so tightly. It definitely works though! Good luck! I’m having my other foot done on the 27th.

  23. Mark

    Eric,

    Save yourself a lot of time and trouble by getting a knee walker BEFORE your surgery, keep the crutches for short distances. Crutches are awkward and can lead to falls on wet surfaces Check with your insurance BCBS , paid for mine.

    Shout out to Shirley and Wendy, I hope you are both getting better. I finally turned the corner after the 4 month mark and am walking w/o severe pain. Even started a little light jogging. This has been the most miserable injury and frustrating time in recent memory.

    1. Shirley C

      Glad to hear that you’re seeing the light and now able to walk without severe pain! I agree with you Mark that this has been very frustrating and much longer recovery than my surgeon had “promised” me. I am currently walking without any device(s) but not completely normal as I still have swelling and it does still hurt. I’ve developed couple scar tissues and my PT is working on breaking them up. I hope in the future I can look back and not regret that I’ve had the surgery.

  24. Eric

    Wow, 4 MONTHS to walk without severe pain? Did you have something done other than the typical bone removal and tendon advancement? So sorry to hear your recovery has been long and miserable.
    I was going to get a knee walker, but there’s a few reasons I didn’t opt for one (yet): I live in a house with LOTS of stairs and very little need for one at home. My wife and naighbours are taking care of the deck and driveway, and I am off work for at least 2 weeks — and have parking extremely close to the door and work in an office with very little need to walk more than 50′ once I’m here.
    My insurance (Canada) doesn’t cover it unless it’s a long-term disability. :(

  25. Bill

    After 4 weeks in a cast, my daughter’s foot is so much better. She regained the mobility and the pain is gone. It also looks much better than it did in early February. She needs to wear a brace for another 4 weeks and then she can resume normal activity. My fingers are crossed that this will do the trick and we can avoid surgery. So far we’ve been very pleased.

    1. Kerry

      Hi Bill, my 14 year old daughter has just returned from hospital having gone in for the kidner procedure but on talking to the surgeon this morning has returned home in a cast for 4 weeks. This is whilst we are awaiting an appointment for insoles. We hope your daughter is recovering well and our question to you is – did the cast help your daughter entirely or did she still have to go on to have the surgery in the end. Our daughter is having very mixed feelings about the cast. Ow and wishing she had just gone ahead and had the operation but her dad and I agree all other options should be explored before settling on surgery which can potentially take her 6-12 months to make a full recovery.

  26. Eric

    24 hours since I came out of surgery. I got a spinal and sedative, but remember asking to see the bone he pulled out. He actually got FOUR pieces out, as it was apparently fractured between the accessory and regular navicular. No wonder it never healed and continually got worse, he said! X-ray didn’t show it and I guess mri didn’t really either (they were looking at tendon issues not what was actually going on with the bone).
    I’m in a surgical splint for 2 weeks then he’s hoping a walking boot after that! He did use a titanium anchor into the navicular bone to anchor the tendon but didn’t have to advance it too much so he thinks recovery will be quicker.

  27. Claire

    Wow!! This post was super helpful to get an idea of what I can expect recovery to be like. I’m 5 days post-op right now and likewise had a hard time finding information out about the procedure. I’m going to atttempt to go to school 4 days next week while still under “no weight bearing” by the doctor.

  28. Elizabeth

    Hi everyone! I’m 25 and recently had modified Kidner surgery.

    I had had the chronic pain when running or exercising with repetitive motions (elliptical, biking, etc.) in my forefoot and around/under my ankle for about 5 years and even fractured my fibula by my knee running from improper gait/stress. When I finally saw a new podiatrist this year, he noticed the accessory bone right away. I do have some additional knee and hip problems and high arches, which all contributed to my pain, but my podiatrist said that if I wanted to remain active, surgery to remove the accessory bone with physical therapy was my best bet.

    The procedure was quick – the bone was removed and the tendon was folded over and pinned with a small screw in a new and better placement because it had been stretched over the accessory bone.

    I spent the first two weeks in a split with crutches and very little pain after the first two days. Then I was put in a walking boot to work up to minimal weight bearing (in the boot) for the next two weeks but it only two me three days to completely ditch the crutches. I am mostly able to go about my day in the boot if I don’t need to walk too far. My next appointment will determine whether I can move on to shoes and/or physical therapy (and driving!).

    So far my swelling disappeared quickly and I am in little pain. My foot feels very stiff – it’s hard for me to curl and point my toes and I don’t dare try and roll my ankles – but this is probably because it’s been wrapped tightly or in a boot for a month. Like others have mentioned, I will definitely need to do some serious calf exercises to get the muscle tone back when I am able to exercise again.

    This is my experience so far and I hope it was helpful for anyone considering the surgery. It has been worth it to me so far.

  29. Eric

    HI Elizabeth – thanks for the post! So after two weeks and 3 days, you were crutch-free? WOW! I was in the splint/cast for 2 weeks, and now am 1 week into the walking boot but still non-weightbearing. However, I’m able to at least rest my heel or toes, while in the boot, on the floor. Makes it easier to do tasks like prepare food, shave, etc. I had the same thing as you – remove bone (fragments, as mine was fractured), move/anchor tendon, sew it back up (I actually had NO stitches, weird).
    My foot was not at all swollen by the day I had my cast removed. However recently it’s been really puffy and sausage-toes, as I spent 8 hours driving on Monday, and went back to work for the first time on Tuesday. (2.5 weeks after the procedure). As such, I cannot elevate it as much… and man can I ever feel the difference.
    I’d love to be even partial weightbearing. I have a lot of flexibility in my foot, very little pain, just no orders from the doc to be weightbearing, and still some swelling.
    I’m only wearing the boot to move around the house/work, drive (left foot surgery), and that’s about it. The rest of the time I’m flexing my foot as instructed and letting it breathe!

  30. Michael Wolf

    Hi everyone,
    Thank you all for posting. This was enormously helpful when prepping for my procedure this past March 11. I am 62 years old, a self-admitted couch potato, and outside of being somewhat clumsy, resulting in several ankle sprains and broken toes over the years, have never had a problem with my flat feet. This past October, I was talking to a colleague while walking down a flight of stairs late in the evening, turned as I left the last step and rolled over on my ankle. I had one of those light bulb moments, when there is a flash of blinding pain for a moment and then it fades. I woke the next morning to an severely swollen and discolored ankle. An X-Ray revealed a small fracture at the base of the fibula and I was placed in a cam boot for 6 weeks. Come December, I came out of the boot, but had virtually no lateral motion in my foot and still had considerable pain, so I was referred for an MRI. Diagnosis was Type II accessory and PTT damage. I had a second opinion to confirm and then a surgical consult and a Kidner procedure was suggested.

    Surgery went very well- accessory bone was very large and was removed. The bridge betweeen the accessory and the navicular had be broken when I broke my fibula and the accessory was basically ‘floating with most of the tendon attached to it instead of the main bone. The tendon was anchored to the navicular and I woke up in a fiberglas cast to my knee. A week later, the cast was removed and replaced with a shorter one that remain on until 4 week post op. Totally non weight bearing (get a knee walker !!) until the cast was removed. I immediately went into a cam boot and am now about 25% weight bearing and walking with crutches.

    Honestly….it hurts. I live on naproxen these days and I get very tired from walking with crutches. However, each day is a little better and I can do a little more. I start PT this week and hope to be walking in a sneaker and dancing (a bit) at a friend’s wedding in 3 weeks. For those considering it, I felt that the surgery was worthwhile and would do it again considering where I was 4 months ago and where I already am 5 weeks post-op.

  31. Abigail Pohl

    Hi Everyone,

    I am a collegiate cross country and track runner and I have been struggling with arch pain since September. I have had to cross train every single day since then, and only got to run 2 cross country races and one track race, with no signs of improvement in pain. I have seen 4 doctors and visited my trainer basically every single day to try to diagnose and fix whatever is causing me pain. After being diagnosed with a calcaneus (heel bone) contusion and plantar fasciitis but seeing no improvement in the treatment for either, I began to wonder if it was something else. Finally today I discovered what a navicular accessory bone is, and it reminded me that a podiatrist once told me I had an extra bone in my foot!!! I feel so relieved to have an idea of what is going on, since none of the treatment has been working.

    I was wondering what types of pain everyone was having before their diagnoses. I have intense pain when I go up on my toes, when I walk, when I run, when I push off my foot, and when I bring my toes inward. The pain is on the inside of my right foot, on the arch underneath the ankle bone and a little bit more towards the toes. I tape my foot every day, wear custom orthotics, stretch my calves constantly, spent a month in a boot, and went 4 months without running, to no avail. I’m hoping I’m right in my idea that this might be a problem caused by a navicular accessory bone.

    I am very active but I have been unable to do any of the activities I enjoy due to my foot pain. From your experiences, would you recommend the surgery? I am scheduled to get an x ray this week, which hopefully will reaffirm the podiatrist’s diagnosis from 10 years ago. Has anyone had similar experiences?

    Thank you so much, and so glad to find these posts!!! Hope everyone is recovering!!!!

    1. mark

      Abigail,

      First off your doctor should order an MRI along with x rays. The MRI can give much more detail as to your tendons and ligaments in your foot. I am almost 6 months post op on a right navicular surgery and tendon surgery and still have moderate to intense pain. The doctor says recovery can take up to 1 year. The pain I felt BEFORE surgery was similar to what you have explained, pain upon running, pain upon impact, pain that is in and around the navicular bone. This is not a surgery to be taken lightly. Do your homework and get educated about your condition. Before I had this injury I had never even heard of a navicular bone or a posterior tibial tendon. Now I know of this all to well. Ice often also. Good luck.

  32. Lexie

    Hi! I had a Kidner Procedure done on April 15, 2015. The surgery went very well.At first the pain was really bad, but has gotten so much better in just almost 3 weeks. I am non-weight bearing now but I get a walking cast on Tuesday and get to bear weight. I am very tired of the crutches! I was just wonder if anyone else was weight bearing after only three weeks? :)

  33. Christi

    I just had it done 2 weeks ago. I am in a boot now and today in am starting the walking process. I was told not to put alot of weight at one time. Of course yesterday I slipped and put almost full weight so my calf is killing me as is my foot. Dr doesn’t seem to concerned just to be careful. I am clumsy so this will be interesting. I am scheduled to go back to work May 25 and my procedure was April 17. I’m a little worried. Did anyone have pain when walking? I’m 41 and yes it would be easier had they found it in my 20’s or 30’s.

  34. Lexie

    Hi everyone,

    I just got a boot and now I am starting to walk. There is barely any pain so that’s good.:) I sleep and shower without the boot(very happy about that). I still have 3 weeks in the boot then hopefully the all clear!

  35. Dan

    Thanks so much for this article! It is the only thing I have found online that actually has REAL people talking about this surgery. I just scheduled mine for late August. I am a teacher so I really didn’t want to miss time teaching the students so early in the year, and I am also moving into a new condo in December, as well as planning on going on a trip down south over the xmas holidays. It seems like after 4 months or so things get back to normal. My issue seems to be a standard Type 2 Navicular issue, where the tendon is attached to the extra bony fibrous cartilage, which is essentially causing a fracture in the navicular area. I’ve always been active, and now I can barely walk without feeling the pain. I don’t want to cancel my trip in December, but I also don’t want to wait until next Spring to do this, and be hobbling around in pain for another year. To those who have had this done, is 4 months a good amount of time to hope to at least be ready to walk pain free? Hope you are all healing well.
    Thanks!

    1. Eric

      HI Dan,

      I’m at about the 10 week mark and barely have any pain (Maybe a 0.5 out of 10 now). There is still some very localized swelling at the incision site, and tenderness if I press firmly in a very specific spot. Other than that, I’m walking perfectly fine, have done little physio (just a few basic theraband movements, some heel raises – assisted at first with the other foot), and stretching).
      If you’re scheduled for late AUgust I’d say you’re pretty safe to be back on your feet without crutches within 4-5 weeks and back to normal by 10 weeks… that is if you’re healing is on-par with mine at age 35.

      Best of luck!

  36. Hi! My name is Kay and I have made a blog, accessorynaviculartalk.wordpress.com , to make a centralized place for people to talk with eachother about our weird extra bones and the issues they cause! Please visit and comment and hopefully this could be a good tool for us!

    [[I just realized this sounds a lot like a scam. I swear it is not!! I just started looking at blogs like this where people were so happy to find a space to talk and thought I’d make a separate website for community just devoted to accessory naviculars]]

    1. Dan

      Thanks Eric! I ended up delaying the surgery after all, because rehab went well, but it got bad again and I basically realized I was never going to truly be pain free. So I’m giving this a shot. They have replaced me at work for the time being, and I am going under the knife on May 11th! I’ll keep people posted on how it goes and if my experience is similar to everyone else’s. Hope you are still doing well. can you do sports and activity now perfectly? An update would be awesome.

      Hi Kay! Thanks for the post. I will check out the blog for sure. Thanks for doing that.

  37. Michael

    Very similar story to the one just above. At 10 weeks, still some swelling, but minimal pain. PT once weekly with 3-4 days weekly in the gym doing strength building (up to 110 lbs) on operative foot and walking up to 2 miles a day in flat surfaces. Going down steps and walking on uneven surfaces like sand still challenging. I am 62 and surgeon very pleased with my progress.

    1. Dan

      Thanks for the info Michael! Hope you are still doing well. Any changes since you posted this almost a year ago? I am going into surgery on May 11th. I’m really hoping for the best.

  38. Aly

    Since everyone is sharing their story…

    I had my right accessory navicular removed three years ago… May 2012. Hadn’t been able to run or be terribly active for four years before that when I initially injured it training for a half=marathon. During the recovery, I was most successful literally sitting in bed with my foot elevated for a month and a half straight, though I know this option isn’t available to everyone. When my doctor took off my initial splint, he commented that he’d never seen a foot with so little swelling so quickly after surgery. My foot healed well from that at the time — I was dancing all night in high heels by September — and I was able to resume an active life.

    No matter how active I was, though, that side of my foot continued to feel stiff and “tight”. It turns out I had some scar tissue issues (that had begun choking the PT tendon and nerves), and this March the same surgeon opened the surgical site back up to clean it out. Much simpler surgery than the original Kidner and far faster recovery. Now, for the first time in three years, I feel like I didn’t even have surgery on that foot at all! (or A.N. problems to begin with). It’s really amazing. So if anyone’s having trouble with stiffness and pain years after, a scar tissue debridement may be helpful.

    Had the Kidner on my left foot a few days ago. My doctor’s been pioneering a foot block/long-term localized anesthetic called Exparel, which has basically translated to needing zero pain meds for the first five days after surgery. This has truly been a game changer in terms of the initial recovery experience. Despite the long recovery (and it is long), I would much rather go through this in the short-term than live a long life of inactivity and erratic pain.

    Good luck to everyone with this issue! I’m so glad there’s more information on it… when the problem first started cropping up in my life in 2008 it was misdiagnosed for years because so few doctors even knew about it!

    1. Aly

      I should also add that none of the non-invasive interventions worked for me — physical therapy, different shoes, strengthening, orthotics, rest, massage, acupuncture, etc., etc. Sometimes they’d clear the problem up temporarily and sometimes they wouldn’t, but the pain — mostly radiating through my arch, though in my left foot it’s been centered around my medial malleolus and PTT — always came back, for years. That helped make my decision to go for the surgery much easier, at least!

    2. Dan

      Thanks for the info Aly! Great to hear a success story. I’m going in next month on May 11th. I have the luxury to lie down for a month with my foot elevated, so that is what I will do! Even though I have a shoulder/neck problem as well (I’ll try to still work on those a bit while sitting down), I don’t want to do anything to jeopardize the recovery. How are you feeling these days? Still good results?

  39. Linda

    Has anyone have flat feet and hyper mobility in their knees and feet along with thus accessory navicular bone? Is it better to do the kinder while in teens?
    This is rough time for my son since he was told to wear his custom orthottic all the time.. I am not sure how long he will comply with wearing johns orthotic all day.. Has everyone tried all day custom orthotic and if so, how long before they opted for the kidner?

    1. Bill

      My 13-year old daughter has flat feet with the extra navicular bone. After months in a boot, we saw another orthopedic doctor who casted her for 4 weeks to rest the PTT. Then she was in a custom orthotic with a brace for another 4 weeks. She had the brace removed and is suppose to wear the orthotic all of the time. However, we got a good pair of sneakers for her and she’s been wearing those and is doing much better. So far we have not had to get the surgery.

    2. Dan

      Hi Linda,
      I’ve had flat feet and the accessory navicular for my entire life. I twisted my ankle a couple of times in high school and also broke my hip on the same side in high school as well, but my foot still always recovered with the help of orthodics. It wasn’t until I was 24 that the non-invasive options stopped working. Now the orthodics obviously help, but it isn’t enough to keep me pain free. Other than walking, and mild running, I can’t do anything without pain at this point, so I have decided to do the surgery on May11th coming up. I really wish the other options worked (which they temporarily did) but it wasn’t enough for me to feel satisfied living the rest of my life without actually fixing it. Hopefully this helps. Keep in touch if you life.

  40. Ashley

    I had surgery on the 17th. I have been keeping it elevated and I took my pain pills the for the first 3 days but since then I haven’t been in pain (I have a high pain tolerance). I hope the surgery helps the pain I was in before the surgery bc I couldn’t even walk around a store or chase after my 2 year old without being in severe pain. I couldn’t find much information on the surgery or recovery which scared me but I was willing to give surgery a try bc I couldn’t see the pain getting any better without it since I had been dealing with severe pain for 3 years.

  41. A Robinson

    I’m having this procedure in two weeks on my right foot. It’s been hurting for about 20 yrs and I finally got an x-ray. I went to a dr about 15 yrs ago and I guess they didn’t think an x-ray was necessary and said “nothing” was wrong. I’ve been ignoring but it’s gotten worse and worse to the point I was walking with my foot turned on it’s side or not walking on it at all.

    I will have the extra bone removed and the navicular bone shaved (?) down as it is larger than normal as well. My extra bone sits behind the navicular so the protrusion that I can see is my oversized bone, not the extra one. I always wondered why it was so pointy and stuck out so far. It’s been a problem with some shoes as well.

    Anyway, it pretty much hurts all the time at this point. I will have the right foot done Sept. 4th and the left done mid-December (trying to get it in there before the end of the year for insurance reasons-out of pocket max and deductible starts over Jan 1st). I bought something called a hands-free crutch to use instead of a knee walker. I’ve tested it out and it’s pretty easy. You can Google it but the brand I got is the iWalkFree 2.0. It cost a little more than the one month rental of a knee scooter and I’ll be using it again so that works for me. I think it’s a much better option than crutches or a knee walker so you can still “walk”.

  42. Heather

    I’m in a bit of a pickle.. and reaching out to my other fellow kidners!
    I had a slip and fall at work (in an ER), and after pressuring my provider to do an MRI (only wanted to do an xray, which was ridiculous), they discovered a tear in my posterior tibial tendon near the insertion point of my accessory navicular. Up to this point, I have never had any issues, so it was a bit odd that at 32, I discovered this the hard way (but also at work, so thank goodness for workers comp). I had a modified kinder March 27th, and had a really horrible recovery.. but my foot improved. However, about a month post op, I developed swelling and pain inside my foot that didn’t back down. After a few weeks, I told my provider something was wrong, requested an MRI for clarity, and of course I had some nasty tendinitis … at the insertion point near my accessory navicular (what are the odds?), which was no doubt due to me favoring that foot and putting tons of pressure (I have stairs, a knee scooter with carpet, hopping and pivoting to bathe, use the restoom, etc) on it. I decided to do PT twice a week (on both feet by then), and also use an ankle brace/orthotics/taping/band exercises and whatever else necessary. I attempted to transition into work again, as I was able to walk with little pain, but as my work is very straining on the feet (ER nurse, go figure), my tendinitis would flare up within 20 minutes of working. I finally decided to do the same procedure on my other foot.. being that it was painful, conservative measures were failing, and I’d rather not wait until it’s an old injury to act and possibly have a longer recovery.
    I had the modified kidner on my 2nd foot Aug 14th, 4 1/2 months after my other surgery. I assumed I could tolerate it, but after a week, my previously operated foot began to become painful around the inside of my ankle. I am worried it’s bc I am not fully healed, and I am wondering whether or not I should continue PT, or just stay completely off of it and let it rest up (which sucks because that leaves me with 2 problematic feet).

    Side note, I’m worried I will not fully heal and / or not be able to return to a job I really enjoy.

    Any advice would be awesome.

    My foot and ankle surgeon wants me to stop PT for 3 weeks, and my PT and literature I’ve read states I should still work the area, but then rest, ice and elevate after.

    Thanks for your feedback, I hope that rant made sense.

  43. Tonya

    Well I’m really late to the party, but I thought I’d share my story in case it helps someone. I had my surgery early June last year. I’m 26. I started at a walk in clinic got a referral. Saw a podiatrist. Diagnosed me with an accessory navicular with posterior tibial tendinitis. I have an accessory navicular in both feet, but only had a pain issue in my right foot. Also the accessory bone in my right foot was about 5 times the size as the one in the left. He did his own xrays, and an MRI. He came to the conclusion that at some point I had broken the accessory bone off the normal navicular bone and it was sort of free floating and messing with my tendon, and being a general PITA. He said we could try immobilization, but that in his experience, it’s not usually successful. So we talked about surgery, and he put the request in to my insurance to see if and how much would be covered. During this time I did my own research on both the procedure, and my doctor. I was satisfied with that information I could find (though it wasn’t a whole lot). So we scheduled the surgery. I figured, with the state my foot was in, surgery couldn’t make it much worse. At that point I was struggling most days with just walking.

    So I woke up from anesthesia. I was really out of it, but I don’t remember being in pain at that point. I do remember throwing up. Sort of a lot. The anesthesia didn’t agree with me too well apparently. But they did let me go home that day. Eventually. The entire first day I wasn’t having any pain. The second day was when the pain really hit. For the first two weeks the pain was really bad. Like really bad. The worst pain I’ve ever felt. My doctor had me on pain killers, and for the first two weeks, I still had A LOT of pain. I probably should have requested something stronger, or something extra for break through pain. But I’m not a fan of pain killers. I was loath to take the ones I already was, but the doctor wouldn’t do the surgery unless I agreed to take them. I had to have ice behind my knee constantly to keep the swelling down. Also my foot had to be elevated. And at this point I was in a splint. Laying down was miserable, being up was even worse. Just a trip to the bathroom put me in agony.

    Fast forward two weeks, and I got the splint off….aaaand was promptly put in a hard cast. They cleaned the stitch area, which was awful. I almost threw up. My foot looked like a horror show too. Bruised and black in areas. Didn’t gross me out though. I though that was kinda cool actually. And my foot had been splinted into a pointed position. The doctor and technician wanted my foot flat in the hard cast. So they forced it down as far as it would go. My foot was pretty stiff in the pointed position, and that was truly awful. Try as they might they couldn’t get it completely flat. So I got casted and went home. I was pretty miserable for the rest of the day. But after that, despite my rocky start, things got better. At least, as better as the can get when you’re on no pressure orders. The pain eased up. I don’t know if it was just the timing, or if the hard cast helped any. After that I got a cast change every two weeks for a two month period (from the start of the surgery date). The pain got better and better, except on cast change day. That was always miserable. They got my foot all the way down the day of the second hard cast. Not a pleasant experience, but my doctor explained it was necessary to save me from physical therapy in the future. That I’d have problems if my achelies tendon shortened. I’d say from the second day I was in the second hard cast, sometimes I didn’t even need pain killers. Sometimes ibuprofen did the trick. But, you know, I still had to elevate, and ice constantly.

    So that was two months of my life I was pretty much bed bound. I watched a lot of netflix and played a lot of video games. Food was hard. Carrying it to bed was a challenge (tupperware and a backpack). The biggest challenge was being able to be up long enough to really make anything. Once the ice and elevation was gone, pain was swift and unforgiving. Luckily I had a nice roommate, a partner, and my mom to look in on me frequently. Showers were another problem. I had my partner help me for a while (we put a lawn chain in the shower lol). But after a while, she couldn’t be there every day due to work and military obligations. I figured out I could take a bath, if I laid backwards in the tub and left my foot dangling out. It was awkward and looked real stupid, but it worked.

    The beginning of the 3rd month, I got put into a walking boot, with the encouragement that everything was looking good. The very first day out of the hard cast I took my first real bath. It was heavenly. Felt great to actually wash my foot in the first time in forever. I had to start weight barring a little at a time. It was slow going and frustrating. I found at this point, I could lay off the ice a bit, but still needed to elevate fairly frequently. He had me flex my foot when I was out of the boot (which he suggested whenever I wasn’t walking or standing). One surprise was that I needed the pain killers way more than I had in previous weeks. My doctor said this was to be expected though, as I was more active, and putting pressure on my foot. But that eased up after about two weeks. Which was handy, because that’s when my pain killer prescription ran out. I was still having some pain, that could be fairly bothersome at times. But, despite my doctor’s assurance that he could give me a new prescription, I decided that I’d rather tough out the rough patches, than risk a dependency issue (plus I was eager to be free of the opiate, er….”digestive” side effects) . There’s a history of substance abuse in my family and I didn’t want to temp fate. So some days were better than others.

    On the last day of the 3rd month, my doctor saw me and fitted me in a regular shoe. He made me wear insoles though, both to help support me newly healed foot, and also to help some other structural issues I have in my feet. We were both pleased with the progress. He decided that because we’d avoided shortening of the acheiles tendon, I had acceptable flexibility, I was stable on my feet, and I’d made decent progress in muscle building when I was in the weight barring boot, that I didn’t need physical therapy. But to call him if I felt like I was having any issue at all, and he’d reevaluate. He attributed my good progress to my age (25 at the time. Had a birthday). And he said to call him if I ever started to have an issue with the accessory bone in my other foot, but if and until then, it’s not bothering me, I’ve got no sign of tendinitis so I should leave well enough alone. Unfortunately I’d made the decision to go back to work the very next day. If I could do it over again, I would have waited at least a week, but I was bored and eager to get back to work. My shifts were very difficult for a good long while after that (I’m on my feet all day at work). I’d say for at least a month, I put my walking boot back on at work frequently.

    That brings me to where I am now. I’m 9 and a half months from my surgery day. I’m doing pretty well. No sign of the old pain. I do still have some pain, but it’s different. I attribute it to nerve and other damage from the surgery itself. It’s been getting better gradually. I don’t know if it’ll ever be completely gone, and my doctor told me that was a risk. But in terms of improvement, my foot feels a lot better than it was. Even if my pain issue stays as it is for the rest of my life, I can live with it. The pain before, I couldn’t. I’m much more functional now. I’ve still got a plastic tendon anchor in my foot. It’s supposed to absorb, but it hasn’t completely yet (I can feel it and see it). I’m actually starting to work out again even. Which is great, because I gained about 40 lbs during my recovery >_> couldn’t really be helped though. I was basically bed bound for two months and very limited in activity a month after that. I also felt that a restrictive diet to control my weight would be a poor choice when trying to heal from surgery. So I gained wait. Around 20 lbs melted right off when I got back to work. Still working on that last 20, but I’m making decent progress. (Started at 115 preop, I’m at 130 now).

    I don’t regret the surgery at all, even though it was agony at first, and definitely a challenge, sometimes even now. But I went in with realistic goals in mind, to improve my pain and functionality. I didn’t expect that I would be 100% like I was before I ever started having a pain problem and my doctor was honest about that too. So to anyone considering this surgery, I absolutely think it’s worth it if your accessory bone is having a major negative impact on your life, and you have realistic goals. Better is a reasonable goal. Perfect, or 100% pain free, maybe not.

  44. margeperry

    Hi–My surgery is scheduled for a week from now. Am I insane to think I will be back on my feet for (once a week) 6-hour days of teaching (cooking) starting July 18? And am I crazy to think I will dance at my niece’s July 30th wedding…in heels?
    Some of you wrote that you stayed in bed for up to 6 weeks…I had assumed with the knee walker I would be able to be out and about after just three weeks or so– am I wrong???
    I am getting really nervous and I keep wondering if the pain I know is better than the one I don’t.

    1. Dan

      Hi,
      My surgery is next month, but from what my surgeon is saying, it sounds like you can expect to be in a cast or boot for 10 weeks. The first 3 weeks should be in crutches. After the 3 month time limit, normal life can resume, but it’s a super slow process and everyone is different. Some people take 6 to 7 months to be back to normal. Can you update us on how your surgery goes? Also, I’d probably suggest to avoid high heels for a while after this surgery since they are probably some of the worst things for our feet haha, but that’s your choice. If you can pull it off without pain, then that’s awesome.
      Good luck with the surgery, and let us know how your recovery is! Just be sure t elevate that foot as much as possible over the first couple of weeks.

    2. margeperry

      I went for my pre-op appointment yesterday and this is the plan: cast for two weeks, with my leg always elevated and basically staying in bed. UGH. Next four to six weeks i am in a boot using a knee-stroller or crutches and completely non- weight bearing. At week 8, i begin, very slowly, to put a small percentage of weight down– 10% at the beginning, and gradually growing– several times a day. At three months, if all goes well, I may be able to put a sneaker on.
      Because they are also re-constructing my heel to correct for flat foot, my doc warned me that many people say they have heel discomfort up to about 9 months. WOW.
      For the record, I feel bad for my husband!

  45. margeperry

    An update:
    It is now three weeks after my surgery. I survived that awful cast and was very happy to switch, at two weeks, to a boot.
    I didn’t do well on pain killers, so three days after surgery I switched to Tylenol, and have been taking it as little as possible ever since. I spent the first two weeks, on doctor’s orders, with my leg elevated– that was hard, claustrophobic and uncomfortable, but worth it. When he took off the cast, the doc was pleased to see only moderate swelling.
    I use a knee scooter and crutches to get around and I still spend most of the day at my desk with my leg elevated. I am still non weight bearing and will be for a couple more weeks. On days when I “scoot” around more, I have more pain. It is a very simple equation, and one that keeps me in line in terms of activity.
    One of the hardest parts (besides not being able to go out and about and do simple tasks like feeding my dogs) is that it is very hard to sleep. the discomfort wakes me all night long, and anticipating it makes it hard to fall asleep!
    However, unlike some of the other people who have posted here, I fortunately have found the pain quite bearable. There are different kinds of pain at different times: shooting intermittent pains, throbbing, and tingling/burning, but most are at the level that I can distract myself from them. The pain tends to be worse later in the day, which makes sense. Luckily, I start each day with less pain and that keeps me optimistic!
    My next milestone is May 26, when I see the doc again and begin, gradually, to put a little weight on the leg and start PT. I’ll report back then. (I post updates because when I was getting ready for the surgery, I found these comments to be the only place where I could get a true understanding of what to expect, and that really helped me)
    Good luck to all of you contemplating this!

    1. Dan

      Hi there! I hope your recovery is going well. I thought I’d update on myself as well. I am right at the 3 week mark and doing pretty well! Unlike everyone else in this thread, my surgeon (whose supposed to be the best in the city apparently haha) was very firm on avoiding the splint and plaster cast. He put me in an aircast boot right away. This allowed me to move my foot around after a few days, sleep without the cast at night with the foot elevated, and also wash my foot every day from the third day and onward. The incision healed very well because of this, my mobility is quite good, and I can already start to put weight on it in the air cast. I still need the crutches because I am going to work on it gradually for the next week or two. So far so good. He took the stitches out yesterday and the incision is a bit sore, but healed well. I’m really anxious to ditch the crutches but I’m not going to rush it. He says I need to have the aircast on for another 7 weeks until late July, I’ll meet him again, and then hopefully work my way into a sneaker after that. The pain was horrible for the first week, but now is doing well. I still find the pressure from the air cast irritates my incision and deep in my foot a bit. But getting better every day. Good luck to you all and let’s keep updating each other!
      Oh also, my surgeon said when he went in to cut out the accessory bone, the bone was literally floating there barely attached. That’s crazy. Proves to me that I made the right decision because the bone was literally not functioning properly at all. The tendon was otherwise healthy though so he only need to reattach one area of the tendon. Take care everybody!

  46. John

    Great site thanks Everybody.

    Is there anyway that someone can set up an area on this site where bloggers can suggest a doctor they recommend for this procedure? I live in San Diego and there is no one that specializes in this procedure. I was told to find an orthopedic surgeon that specializes in the foot. I found a couple good ones but they both have performed less than 5 kidner or modified kidner procedures.

    Any help in finding a good doc for this would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks all :-)

  47. Louise

    I had the operation, the accessory bone was removed. The tendon was secured with a screw. I am wearing an AIRCAST. Funny you would say, I went on Kijiji and found 2 used aircast, I went swimming! The aircast was very wet, but I kept my original dry. The incision site is still healing (operation date: June 1st). I still have some pain but I think I did the right thing because the accessory bone was getting too big and I was limping. today is July 5th, 2016.

  48. My grandson is going to have the surgery this Friday. Thank you all for the details on the surgery and the recovery time. This information has helped so much in eliminating unnecessary worry.

  49. Andrew S.

    I had this surgery 8 years ago on my right foot. By 5 weeks later, I was doing great, even so much as dunking a basketball without thinking until I landed…not smart, but it healed great. A lifetime of unknown pain vanished…

    Had the left done on May 4, and healed well. So much that by July 18, my family and I were walking miles at Disney with an aircrast splint. All of that said, I have significant soreness that I don’t remember from before. It’s a different dr, they needed to muse a suture anchor this time and I’m 8 years older this time around.

    It’s going on four months and each day I’m Wondering if I made the right choice to have had the surgery or if I’ll end up in chronic pain.

    My hope is that the suture anchor is dissolving and in a month of two longer I’ll be in better shape.

  50. Olivia

    Hi
    I went into this surgery unprepared for the reality of what a recovery from a kidner removal is. Still curious actually.
    Active 30 y.o., both feet with the extra bone, left foot done and I’m now one week post op.
    Pain is still very much there, localized around the incision. Low swelling, Nwb status. Pain meds are still a must.
    I cannot recommend the rolling knee scooter enough! Not only does it make getting around easy as pie, but it’ll provide you some fun in a time where all you have is netflix.
    Started out with a hard cast, nightmare (leg closterphobia, so unexpected!). Now in a boot!
    Hoping week 2 is less painful. Thankful for this blog!

  51. Dan Petti

    I’m just over 5 months into recovery now. My leg has gained almost all its strength back. I really hit the rehab hard and the muscle has started to come back. The pain is definitely still strong though. Virtually no improvement on pain at all, except for the fact that that troublesome bone is not there anymore obviously. I feel like once the scar tissue calms down, and the incision area becomes less irritated where the screw is I guess, hopefully the pain also reduces as well… but we’ll see. All my physio therapists are extremely pleased, but said I probably won’t feel normal for about a year. I can walk and bike really well right now, but just get pain if I overdo it. I work on my feet, so the pain basically never leaves… :( I’m hoping for the best. It sounds like people don’t truly feel better until the 6 or 7 month mark. So that’s my hope. If any of you are on the same road as me, please keep in touch. It would ease my mind. Email: dan.petti2012@gmail.com

  52. Miko

    I just had my surgery a week ago. I guess I didn’t realize the healing would take so long. I understood 6 weeks of NWB but I thought I would recover quickly and be able to run and workout and be better than before. I am a runner and am wondering how long everyone thinks it’ll be before I can run, hike and enjoy my life again? Today I went into an air cast and I hate it. It’s big, bulky, heavy and it hurts. I hope I don’t have to wear this for 5 more weeks. My stitches come out in a week. I did buy the knee scooter and it’s worth every penny!

  53. Laura

    Hello fellow kidnerers! This is awesome you guys..

    Late to the party here but thought I would share my experience in the hope that it will help someone out there. Reader BEWARE..this is a LONG read..but something I would have appreciated knowing 4 weeks ago.

    Before I type away, it’s worth mentioning that my extra navicular and I go way back when. They started developing/growing when I was 4 and by age 7 they were sticking out by half an inch from each foot I could not wear anything by slippers to school (yeah!). So had them removed when I was 7 (don’t remember how recovery was but sure it was so easy provided my age and circumstances at the time) and guess what? They grew back out..partially yes..but enough to hurt and cause chronic pain throughout all those years. Hence the second surgery(ies). So parents, DO NOT think about surgery until your child’s bone structure is fully developed and done growing. I passed this curse down to both my daughters and Dr. advised to wait until they’re done growing (mid/late teens).

    Basic info:

    – Age: 33 F
    – Surgery date: Dec 15, 2016 (right foot). Yes right before my holidays ’cause I needed my husband to be around first couple of weeks.
    – Next surgery date (if my right foot fully recovered by then): April 06, 2017 (16 weeks from the first one). Will postpone if RF is not fully healed.
    – Splint/Cast: Splint the first 5 days. Fiber glass the following 2 days.
    – Resting position: toes above the nose 23 hours a day. Still icing under my knee and over and around my ankle.
    – Today (Jan 11, 2017) I complete week 4. Will see my surgeon at wk 6 and have him place me in a boot (air cast) and start partial weight bearing. So wk 6 to wk 8-10 (PWB), and wk 10 onward (completely WB if all goes well). Wk 16 (surgery on my LF).

    Complications/Challenges/Things to expect (FROM MY EXPERIENCE):

    – Pinched nerve: sever pain kicking in at day 4 around the inside bone of the ankle. Apparently gauze was wrapped around my foot too tightly around/a little above my ankle right after they closed my foot up and placed the splint causing a pinched/compressed nerve to a point where I was screaming from pain (and I am a tolerant one). MAKE SURE you tell them NOT to wrap it tight or stretch it when wrapping it and just leave it at it natural stretchiness (even loosen it up a bit to accommodate swelling). SO…by day 5 I could no longer tolerate the pain and went to see my surgeon. They removed the hospital dressing/splint (I could see where the swelling began – right at the point below my ankle/where the gauze was wrapped tight). They placed me in a fiber cast for the next 2 days until things got worse and I could not take it any more. Day 7 onward they split it in half as the swelling increased, pinched nerve got worse and foot was suffocating (see below). Since I had the cast split in half, my pain got better each day as my foot was able to breath and ice bags where doing their job more effectively than when I placed them on the fiber glass. During the day, I only rested my foot on the bottom half of the case without wrapping it with anything. I only closed it shut with the upper half when I went to sleep to contain foot twitching at night (see below), and when I got up to use the toilet/shower as there is a higher risk of slipping/falling when on crutches or any other device than when I’m laying down.

    -Twitching and jerking of the foot while asleep/as soon as I drift off to sleep. This is common..to dream like you’re falling off a cliff or jumping is common in the couple of weeks following surgery. Sometimes the twitching is so violent it wakes me up from the middle of my sleep with a loud “OUCH”. It got better since I started to wiggle my toes more during the day and rotate my ankle around at the advice of my surgeon at my wk 3 visit.

    – Sleeplessness: this IS a big deal. Your body cells and tissues recover and heal the most at night while sleeping. Due to my anxiety (panic attacks welcome me around bed time usually and increased in frequency since a little before the surgery – I don’t like to depend on Ativan), I started to take 1 pill of Orthosleep right before bedtime. It did wonders and it’s all natural.

    – Boredom: for someone who’s not a TV person there’s only so many books you could read..you will eventually get tired of reading. Think of this as an opportunity to refine your artistic skills and work on new ones (i.e. drawing, learning how to use SketchUp, Photoshop, 3D, Revit…etc). Or maybe study for a course that’s you’ve been wanting to do but never had the chance to.

    Arrangements that made my life easier:

    – “Moved in” to the living room and ditched the bedroom. Full guest bathroom and kitchen are only a few steps away which makes it less hazardous.
    – Emptied my freezer prior to the surgery and filled it with nothing but frozen peas packed in medium-sized double freezer bags half filled with peas (I had 6 in total and alternated). You need the cool/freezing air to flow well in the freezer so always leave it half empty. I had a massanger/cross-body bag that I carried to and from the freezer to exchange frozen peas bags.
    – cut an old shirt across (6 ot 7 inches from the bottom) to get a “circle”. Cut it to open it up and use is to tie/secure the ice/peas bag around your ankle so it won’t move.
    – Folding chairs (the light black ones you get at Walmart for $10): place three folding chairs where I need them to be to rest my knee on when I want to use both hands; bathroom sink which I also use to elevate my foot on while using the toilet (ladies you will also need this chair to place your knee on and change sanitary wear around that time of the month), and 2 in the kitchen (kitchen sink and fridge).
    – Shower bench: does not slip and is a MUST. I usually sit on it and stick my bad foot out resting it on the folding chair I have in the bathroom with a towel on top of it to keep it elevated.
    – Have a mini fridge at your arm’s length with a cutting bored, knife and plate on top of it. Fill it with pre-washed fruits and veg to snack on.
    – Place a basket/bag of all your meds/vitamins and baby wipes and anything you use daily and frequently in your “station”. For ladies: face toner, face cottons, deodorant, lotions and potions, gum, hair brush and lipstick…yes lip stick..you’re tired and bored..but you don’t have to look it).

    That’s all it is..I hope this helps someone out there. Now that I found this great site, I will go ahead and post updated periodically on here.

    Patience and positive attitude will get you through.

    Good luck to all!

    Laura

    1. Robin

      how are things going for you today?? I had the same surgery on Jan 30 2017, and am i the 50% weight bearing stage with a walking boot. I am to be in that for 1 more week with crutches- then 1 week without crutches… Suppose to go back to work April 24, but unsure if I will be ready by then since I work on concrete floors and up and down stairs for 5 hours at a time in a warehouse environment… Haven’t had a lot of pain to this point, and am older with this surgery.. I am 44 and have had orthodics in my shoes since I was 18. Had this issue all my life and finally bit the bullet to have surgery… Did much planning for a year before setting surgery date. Bought a cryo cuff for icing foot- best investment so far!! Also bought knee scooter and a walker with crutches- prefer walker to crutches / felt more stable with walker to control weight bearing… use crutches in public-easier to transport in public.

    2. laura

      Hello Robin,

      Some great planning there! Good to know you’re doing well. Typically you should start partial weight bearing 6 weeks post op (March 13th in your case) as this is how long the tendon (again typically) needs to heal, but your surgeon would know best. Remember to go easy on your self and don’t try to rush the healing process.

      As for me, I will be at 12 wks post-op tomorrow. How am I doing? Fully weight bearing (with a cane on the opposite hand sometimes as needed). Soon as I hit my 8-week mark, I saw a physiotherapist (you should, too). The NWT phase was like a walk in the park for me :) The exercises you start doing to re-introduce motion to your foot/leg and build back the muscle mass lost during NWT is quite a challenge. Having said that, I am getting better each day although foot still hurts…but I know it’ll take time to heal. I also have a bump around my insidious..a hard one..that’s scar tissue that I’m trying with the help of my PT to break it down by messaging/moving it and doing the hot/cold water treatment (will get to that when you get there – let me know)

      Going back to physiotherapy, my PT had me lose one crutch a week after physio started (9 wks post-op) and had me use one crutch only on my opposite hand. At 10 wks (2 wks ago), I graduated to a cane (again on the opposite hand). I don’t always use the cane although it helps alleviate the pain.

      PT is VERY important..make sure you pick a PT who does Active Release Therapy (ratemds.com is my go to site to find a good surgeon, doctor of any specialty and physiotherapist – look it up!) If you do find a good one, call and book in advance. I did 2 sessions per week for the first 5 weeks, then will be doing once a week for the next 4 weeks (I do the same exercises they show you everyday when home). Scheduled for my left foot surgery on April 6th…I know :(

      April 24 is12 wks post-op for you….I am at 12 wks right now and don’t think I’ll be able to do a lot of standing up, walking and going up and down the stairs (I limp a little). BUT, everyone heals differently. I suggest you wait and see how you feel closer to date and as for your PT/surgeon’s advice.

      Are you planning on doing this surgery on your other foot?

      I hope this helps..good luck to you and let me know how things go!

      Laura

  54. Robin

    Laura-
    Thank you for your quick response!! It looks as if I am a little ahead of the game as far as healing (which is good!) I am at week 5 1/2 and on some weight bearing already… Ny doc hasn’t said too much about therapy yet, so not sure what his thoughts are on that.. I found your information very helpful and may ask him if I can do that therapy and when to start. I think he is trying to keep me from doing to much because I had the humor/nerve to ask when I could do lunges and mountain climbers at the last doc visit!!! I can walk now with just one crutch- but am trying not to push things too much. I can feel when I have done to much because the swelling comes back.. Have been doing yoga for years and hope that when I can stand upright again yoga will help with the movement of the foot and muscles…
    I will have to wait and see how I feel when I can put all my weight on it but just wondered if I was being to optimistic or unrealistic with healing time frame… Thanks for all your advice and I will keep in touch on progress. I hope your next surgery goes as smooth as your last one did, and keep plugging away!! As we all know this is not an easy surgery to go through….
    I am unsure at this point if I will have surgery on my other foot, kinda waiting to see how this one turns out.. Although Im kinda hurting in my other foot, trying to compensate for my surgery foot..Hopefully that goes away!!!! Thanks again– And continued healing for you!!!!

    1. laura

      Thanks, Robin! Please Keep updating us on your progress as well – it’s also a good reference for you and others out there.

      As for your other foot that’s hurting, try to wear good supportive shoes in-doors (preferably with orthotics in).

      Best :)

  55. Danielle

    Hello everyone! I’m so glad I found this blog!

    Here is my experience. I started playing soccer at the age of five and didn’t experience any pain until high school. The trainers would just tape my foot and I just dealt with the pain. As I got older the pain would come and go. Recently, hiking and running longer than a mile would really agitate my foot. Finally at 31, I decided to see a Dr.

    They took x-rays and sure enough the Dr. Diagnosed me with accessory navicular in both feet. My left foot is the one giving me problems and the Dr. Said the navicular bone was partially detached and was making my posterior tendon move. He recommended surgery.

    I had the kidner procedure done on January 18, 2017. He removed my accessory navicular bone and reattached my posterior tendon. Below is the protocol he put me on.

    Splint for two weeks non weight bearing
    Cast for 4 weeks non weight bearing
    Walking boot for 8 weeks
    1st week in walking boot 25% weight bearing with crutches
    2nd week in walking boot 50% weight bearing with crutches
    3rd week in walking boot 75% weight bearing with crutches
    4th week in walking boot 100% weight bearing with crutches
    5th week in walking boot 100% no crutches
    6th, 7th and 8th week ween out of boot
    9th week out of boot completely

    The surgery wasn’t that bad, they gave me two nerve blockers to help with the pain. I started PT the first week in the walking boot (25% weight bearing). PT included ankle pumps and band stretches. I started riding a stationary bike when I was 75% weight bearing and it really helped loosen my ankle. Right now I’m in the 4th week in the walking boot at 100% weight bearing with crutches. I have no pain walking in the boot and I’m pretty excited. The only thing I noticed is that I’m having difficulty bending my big toe. I’ve been working to get my ROM back.

    I highly recommend a knee scooter and Mobilegs (crutches)!

    I can’t wait to be active again! We booked a cruise in June so I’m hoping that will give me motivation to kick but in PT.

    Thanks everyone for sharing your story.

  56. Nora

    I had the Kidner procedure about 7 months ago. I am 39 years old. I have always enjoyed running, but have really struggled with it as I’ve gotten older. I knew I had flat feet and my balance was a little off from the time I can remember. In my twenties I first started experiencing numbness in my foot (particularly in the gym on the elliptical). The pediatrist explained it wasn’t a matter of “if” but “when” I would have the extra bone taken out. It basically came down to pain tolerance. After my runs (average 5-7K), my foot would ache for days. Last year when I completed a 10K race my whole leg was completely numb for the last 2K. This was when I decided I needed to get the surgery done.

    I too wish I had done the surgery years ago. When I finally had it (last October), the surgery was very painful and my foot swelled to about 3 times it’s original size. I also had my achilles tendon clipped and lengthened. I waited the full 6 months until running but I’ve just started again and it has been a very slow process. I really pushed myself to do a 5K, but the pain was so bad after the run that I could barely walk. My pace is CONSIDERABLY slower. I went back to see about getting the screw taken out. I thought this was what was causing the pain. The doctor explained what I am experiencing is called “sprained ankle effect” and it’s totally normal. I got a cortisone injection and now I’m fine again.

    I’ve been told that I have to slowly increase my running (not all at once) and make sure I run on a flat surface. Mix it up with elliptical as well and don’t go for distance or speed yet. I really miss running. I hope one day that I will be able to run again like I used to, but without pain. Happy to answer any questions. I enjoyed reading everyones post.

    Can anyone who returned to running after the Kidner please describe how they went with it for me? Will 9 months be pain free? The doctor also mentioned getting new and good running shoes – any recommendations? Thanks!!

    1. Mari

      Hi Nora, I’m also a runner and am about to have the surgery done. I was wondering if you’ve gotten back to running yet? And if you can do trails and off-road running, not just flat surfaces? I’ve only been able to slowly jogg on flat surfaces for a while now, otherwise the pain is too bad. I’m really hoping that after the surgery I’ll be able to go back to training really hard and fast on technical surfaces, like I used to before this whole thing began.

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